Investigative Report on Clandestine Operations of Organ Harvesting from Live Falun Gong Practitioner

The World Organization to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong (WOIPFG) has made significant progress recently on the investigation of clandestine operations of harvesting organs from live Falun Gong practitioners in China. The investigation further confirmed that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) Regime had been harvesting organs from live Falun Gong practitioners in mainland China. Detained Falun Gong practitioners, who went to appeal but didn’t give out their names, were primary targets of this systematic killing. The aforementioned crime reached its peak around 2003 and was virtually public knowledge, but now it had turned into a furtive operation. This is an ongoing systematic crime that had been authorized, sanctioned and collaborated within the judicial system of CCP Regime. The military and armed police hospitals had been identified as major organ transplant institutions and sites where harvesting organs from live Falun Gong practitioners took place.

During the investigation, WOIPFG investigators had contacted a broker representative of the Chinese People's Liberation Army No. 307 Hospital, in the name of helping family members and friends to find suitable kidney supply for their transplant requests. The contact lasted for several weeks and the conversation time totaled several dozens of minutes. WOIPFG has compiled complete record of the conversation and other forms of evidence. If any interested organizations or individuals need further information, please contact WOIPFG. This report will be updated as new evidence become available in the future.

I.       Organ harvesting from live Falun Gong practitioners by CCP reached its peak around 2003 and is still going on today

A: WOIPFG Investigator
B: Organ broker representative

A: Hi, how are you? Last time I talked to you about contacting the kidney supply sources. How is it going?
B: You meant that, contacting the prison, or “that something”?
A: Yes, the source of Falun Gong practitioners, I meant.
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B: Finding a way? I tell you that I cannot search randomly for you. I have to find it. To tell you the truth, all I am looking for is of this kind ---.

A: Right now it is like this, I told you before, as long as you can find this type, then you go ahead and help me check it out, whether….
B: I told you before, didn’t I? I told you before that we told you the real story, we have done two cases. You know, we did two cases.
A: You mean two operations involving Falun Gong practitioners as source?
B: That’s right, we did two cases. The prison told us they did that with Falun Gong. I also told that lady that we indeed performed such operations. Now, however, it is getting more difficult than before.

A: Alright, besides it, how could you be so sure he (the source) was a Falun Gong practitioner, did you find out for sure?
B: How to positively identify as Falun Gong practitioner, well, when the time comes --- when the time comes our side, our Boss will have people showing you information, you know, he will show you the information and data, you can be sure.
A: Oh, that’s fine.
B: They have all the information and data, even including individual resumes.

A: Oh, so there were more cases around 2003?
B: Of course. There were tons of Falun Gong’s on file around 2003.
A: That is what I mean; it was much easier for you to get the organs for the operation at that time, right?
B: Ah, since 2003, I tell you the facts, I handled two cases in 2003, and I started in 2003.

II.    Detained Falun Gong practitioners, who went to appeal but didn’t give out their names, were primary targets as sources of live organs

A: I heard from others that, several years ago, they arrested many Falun Gong practitioners who did not give out their names after they were detained, quite a few, they detained them underground, the kind of place that was neither prison nor labor camp…
B: You are talking about what’s going on around 2003 time frame. I knew exactly what you were talking about. They did not reveal their name starting from 2003. From now on, Falun Gong was no longer an issue, they were pretty much all suppressed and were out of the picture now.
A: Right.
B: Out of picture meant it is already --- extremely rare, extremely rare, you know.
A: Right.
B: Very few, now the source was in very tight supply, so if it is in tight supply, then you have to transfer based on 2003 files, you know.

B: Last time I made some inquiries by calling around, ---- Falun Gong --- Later I contacted that side by phone, I asked my boss to call him, and he said they needed to obtain from inside there.
A: Oh.
B: Now they were all transferred to remotely located prisons, they need to get some from there, getting from there means the money, the money must be paid most to people over there, you know.
A: But I tell you, on the other hand, right now it is very stringent, and they should not ask too much. You know that several years ago, they secretly detained many Falun Gong practitioners who went to appeal but did not provide their names. There was no records, no registrations.
B: Yes. Over here, like over here it is quite normal, you know. He --- did not --- did not give out his name. Let me tell you, even if he did not give out his name, he would leave a code name, understand?
A: Yes.
B: Such people who did not give out names all had code number. I know this better than you. They had code number 8, they had ---. All had codes in the record file.
A: Oh, so it is like this. If they only had the codes, they should also have the real names in the record. These should be in there, right?
B: If they could not find out the real names, they just left code numbers, you know.
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III.  It was semi-public around 2003 using Falun Gong practitioners’ organs for transplant, and now it had become a furtive operation involving money

A: Where did carry it out for the thing that you did before?
B: Ah, it is in Xicheng.
A: Are you still looking for it?
B: Well, now …..
A: I know. I understand. Can you tell me how much did they want?
B: If you want to find it, according to my connection, it is not doable without several tens of thousands of Yuan.
A: Several tens of thousands of Yuan? Give me a concrete number.
B: It would cost 20 or 30 thousand Yuan. The 20 or 30 thousand Yuan is just to find a target. It is not to say that it will be simple and straightforward to connect the organs together…
A: Right.
B: You have to pay separately, understand?
A: How much more do I need to pay?
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B: I am a broker, and I am doing it because our relationship. I figure the other side would demand 200,000 Yuan, and I am only helping out because of our relationship. As far as what the other side would demand, well, it would take, … well, … I estimate it would take 200,000 Yuan, you know?
A: Yes.

B: Let me tell you, our line of business has its own rules. I am not playing around with you on the phone. If there is such a thing, then there is such a thing. The risk on our side is pretty big. If you want it, I will do it for you. I also need to know you better before I can do it for you. You understand?
A: Yes, that’s right.
B: You need to provide some identification so that I can trust you for sure. Otherwise, regardless how much money you pay me, I wouldn’t dare to do it for you. This is a high risk undertaking, understand?
A: Yes, I understand.
B: Our people made it clear, if we are not sure, we won’t do it regardless how much money is involved, that was what our boss said.
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IV.   Such killing took place with the cooperation and under the protection of CCP’s judiciary system

A: Oh, OK. Just one more question.
B: We… I tell you. To tell you the truth, what we have here all belong to this kind. We have connections with government officials. There are connections to high ranking officials. You know, I will show you such material even if you don’t ask me for it. You know.

A: Oh, sure. Oh. You are saying that the policemen, the policemen over there…
B: This… I cannot tell you anything about that.
A: OK.
B: I will not tell you too much about our business. Whatever going on high up on our side, there are rules for everything, you know.
…

A: OK.
B: I…I…I cannot, dare not say anything, you know.
A: Yes. Can I meet him before the organ transplant?
B: Sure, no problem about that…

A: OK. Ah… There is one more thing that I don’t quite understand. That is to say, these people are detained in forced labor camps or prisons. Normally I know that they are in the police station …
B: Right now, there are fewer in the forced labor camps.
A: Really, where are they usually detained now?
B: Right now they are somewhere in the prisons. They are in prisons now. Normally they were sent away from Beijing if they were arrested in Beijing. If they were arrested in other places, they were detained in local prisons. Normally they are sentenced to 10 years, 8 years, or something like that. There are many such cases.
A: Ah, so it’s not detention centers, nor labor camps, right?
B: It is in detention centers, it is in detention centers. After some Falun Gong practitioners were sentenced, with some sentenced to more than 10 years. They were transferred to other places for sure, you know.
A: Ah.
B: Right now it’s impossible to leave it to you. They cannot give you the material at this time, you know.

B: After such a thing is done, I tell you. It is not that I want to tell you something. Oh, some details such as the names of some people, I cannot tell you, you know.
A: Yes.
B: Like our boss, like the connections to the detention centers, I cannot tell you. This, when the time is right… you…Let me tell you in advance…making sure…You know, such as these names I cannot tell you, you know…Such confidential things I cannot tell you. Otherwise, we cannot do business in the future, you know.

A：I understand what you said. I only want to ask you for two things. I want to know these things. First I want to see this person. I want to know where he came from. I want to make sure that he is really a Falun Gong practitioner. Another thing, the doctor who is going to get the kidney, I want to know if he really has the skills, not just an ordinary policeman. It is not acceptable if the quality is not guaranteed.
B: That’s for sure. What you said I cannot take it casually. How can it be casual? We have the contacts. Since we are doing this business, we have people in every department. How can you get it done without connections?
A: Yes. I am just…
B: Such operation is like a supply line, you know.
A: Yes.
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A: That’s right. Do you contact the detention place directly, or you contact through the people in the police station?
B: Are you asking me the contacts now? Are you asking how I reached them? Didn’t I tell you? I cannot tell you about such a thing. Maybe I will say that I am in detention centers in Xicheng, Haidian, and Qinghe. I cannot give you the details. I cannot say. How can I say such a thing to you when I have not met you yet? That’s impossible.

V.     Military and Armed Police Hospitals are alleged to have participated in harvesting organs from live Falun Gong practitioners

A: OK. Let's schedule an appointment. I will bring along 30, 000 Yuan.
B: You must come to my place first, and I will definitely not go to your place. If you come, I will arrange my boss to check you out.
A: Can you tell me how can I find you?
B: Do you know where the No. 307 Hospital of the Chinese People's Liberation Army is?
A: No problem. I can find it. Where specifically within the No. 307 Hospital?
B: You don't need to go to the in-patient Department, just show up at the entrance of the hospital.
A: OK.
B: Do you know where the No. 307 Hospital is located?
A: Yeah. Since we never met before, we should have a contact sign.
B: Don't worry about it. When you arrived at the hospital entrance, call me. I will be upstairs, so I can spot you. I can recognize you when you show up.

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